J ai trouvé ceci dans les regles :
If a constant ability or lasting effect imposes a condition upon a card that would continually drive it from play (for example, a lasting effect that applies to a character over a period of time, and kills that character if its STR is 0), any attempt to save the card must
also remedy the ongoing condition. Otherwise, upon resolution of the save attempt, the card is immediately re-exposed to the ongoing condition, and removed from play. Therefore, if the save effect does not also remedy the ongoing condition, it cannot be initiated, as the effect has no potential to change the game state. As such, using a duplicate to save from such an ongoing condition is also prohibited.
= le duplicate est inutile
= par contre le « risen from sea » devrait pourvoir s appliquer. La question serait donc est ce que l application d un evenement peut donner une force negative ? Ou la force s arrête de se décrémenter a 0 qu importe si l evenements en enlevait plus ?