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Dunk Roi
Messages : 4789 Age : 44
| Sujet: Re: [Live] On the road to Stahleck et Infos en direct Lun 24 Nov 2014 - 11:47 | |
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- moi sur la tof , je suis débout derrière tass
Ah ouais je me souvenais pas que t'etais si petit, on te voit vraiment pas derriere un mec assis en fait? GG les gars, c'est cool d'avoir une photo de la defaite de Laplante! | |
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ecureuil01 Champion de France 2014
Messages : 2556
| Sujet: Re: [Live] On the road to Stahleck et Infos en direct Lun 24 Nov 2014 - 11:48 | |
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Autant dire que la reprise du taf ce matin fut compliquée ; j'ai l'impression d'être un putain de zombie sorti de walkind dead . Je vais essayer de sauver les apparences en évitant de parler franglais à mes collègues , et leur demander si ils ont une action ou si ils opposent .... oula! Faut que je t'appelle aujourd'hui! Je sens que je vais bien me marrer!! :p | |
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Argento Membre du Conseil Restreint
Messages : 10825 Age : 43
| Sujet: Re: [Live] On the road to Stahleck et Infos en direct Lun 24 Nov 2014 - 11:54 | |
| putain les mecs qui tirent au bazooka sur l'ambulance ... | |
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Luthyen Héritier et Pupille
Messages : 1370 Age : 48
| Sujet: Re: [Live] On the road to Stahleck et Infos en direct Lun 24 Nov 2014 - 11:57 | |
| Et donc on apprend que dans la nouvelle FAQ on re-re-re-re-re-restreint "Plan de Mélisandre" c'est ça ? GG Laplante en tout cas, tu fais des top perfs de partout désormais, tu vas commencer à faire peur à tout le monde ! | |
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Arbhast Lord
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TassLehoff Lord Intendant de la Garde de Nuit
Messages : 2535 Age : 43
| Sujet: Re: [Live] On the road to Stahleck et Infos en direct Lun 24 Nov 2014 - 19:11 | |
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Dunk Roi
Messages : 4789 Age : 44
| Sujet: Re: [Live] On the road to Stahleck et Infos en direct Lun 24 Nov 2014 - 19:20 | |
| Un Argento en train de deceder derriere GG Weedboy! | |
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Argento Membre du Conseil Restreint
Messages : 10825 Age : 43
| Sujet: Re: [Live] On the road to Stahleck et Infos en direct Sam 29 Nov 2014 - 1:15 | |
| quelques infos sur le méta du tournoi :
Restricted cards: unused - Fury of the Kraken (this can be unrestricted for all I care) - Orphan of the Greenblood - Narrow Escape - Tin Link & The Conclave (they just serve to keep TMP down a notch) - The Prince's Plan (just keeping Martell down) - Blessed by the Maiden (just an anti-combo call)
Restricted card: singletons - Bloodthirst (surprising? and the deck went 2-6, though that doesn't mean anything) - A Game of Cyvasse - Bungled Orders - Street Waif - The Art of Seduction - Vale Refugee (Lanni Tunnels I guess?) - Wheels within Wheels (Lanni Tunnels again?) - Threat from the East (what was this idiot thinking; what a noob)
Top restricted cards (quantity)
22: Fear of Winter (11% of the field) 19: Val (9%) 17: Meera Reed , Venomous Blade (8%) 16: Castellan of the Rock 15: Long Lances ; Negotiations ; Ser Preston (7%) 8: Maester's Path (4%) 4: Viper's Bannermen 3: Arianne ; Longship Maiden's Bane ; Pyromancer's Cache (1.5%)
Top restricted cards (avr quality)
Maester's Path: 24p (III top32 finishes) Val: 23p (IV top32 finishes, including top seed and eventual winner) Meera Reed: 23p (V top32 finishes) Crossing the Mummer's Ford: 21.5p (II top32 finishes) Long Lances: 21.5p (II top32 finishes) Castellan: 20p (I top32 finish) Search and Detain: 20p (I top32 finish) Fear of Winter: 19p (VI top32 finishes) Venomous Blade: 19p (II top32 finishes) Ser Preston: 19p (I top32 finish) Negotiations: 18.5p (I top32 finish)
Notes: - "Crossing the Mummer's Ford" decks were often involved in 'time' finishes
Top agenda's (quantity)
86: No Agenda (42%) 36: HoD (17%) 28: other 17: DWDW (8%) 9: KotHH 8: Maester's Path (TMP) 7: Black Sails ; Siege of Winterfell 5: PBtT ; Conquest
Top agenda's (quality)
Black Sails: 24.5p (II) Maester's Path: 24p (III) DWDW: 22.5p (IV) No Agenda: 20.5p (XI) KotHH: 20p (II) HoD: 20p (III) Siege of Winterfell: 17.5p (II) PBtT: 16p Conquest: 15p (I)
Agenda's not played - White Book (though some sources claim it actually got the top seed finish wink ) - A Song of Fire - Alliance / Treaties (well duh) - TLV / Brotherhood without Banners (no one dared play neutral) - Wildling agenda's
Notes: - Knights of the Realms performed really well, with 2 of the 3 people playing reaching top32. - Noble Cause was the absolute worst agenda. One of the 2 people playing it must've been a real loser wink (actually Bloodthirst was worse). | |
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Timmy Roi
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| Sujet: Re: [Live] On the road to Stahleck et Infos en direct Sam 29 Nov 2014 - 11:12 | |
| super intéressant toutes ces stats, ça en dit long sur le méta.
Y a-t-il la même chose sur les maisons histoire de se faire une idée?
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Argento Membre du Conseil Restreint
Messages : 10825 Age : 43
| Sujet: Re: [Live] On the road to Stahleck et Infos en direct Sam 29 Nov 2014 - 12:16 | |
| 23 Greyjoy 36 Baratheon 36 Stark 48 Targaryen 38 Lannister 26 Martell Conclusion: A high diversity in both agenda's and restricted cards made for a refreshing format. I would claim 'Fury of the Kraken' and 'Naval Escort' don't need their restricted status. Maybe the 'Laughing Knight' and 'Mel's scheme' need to be restricted once again, but then again: what do I know :p. Venomous Blade is pushing all the other Martell restricteds out of contention and seems the weakest house overall, getting the 4th seed and a sole top8 finish. Only 4 out of 26 played an agenda. Stark still loves Siege in Europe, but HoD actually got more love this year. Targaryen was perhaps the most diverse house, offering a little bit of everthing. Black Sails declared for Targ as well, perhaps surprisingly. Greyjoy-players took to Search and Detain for their restricted choice. Lannister tunnels had a bad showing (17p avg), but DWDW did better (20p avg) as expected from Worlds. And then there's Baratheon with the Val-decks (22p avg) which have been tearing up the field, even securing the final two spots. Some have attributed this to the supposed light cognitive load when playing the deck, where other might succumb to mental attrition after 15+ hours of play, but this is obviously speculation. As I said earlier, Knights of the Realm was actually the top deck (27p avg on just 3 observations, but those might just be good players). Having access to 'Fear of Winter' without a need to grab the 2nd combo piece to your draws (and awarding 42% of the field a free card) seems nice. Top 8 pre-cut had Baratheon and Targaryen divide the cake, with Stark & Martell being present as well. Greyjoy and Lannister weren't that far behind, so all in all I'd say we have a healthy environment where nothing really needs changing, going into the game's final year as a 'living' cardgame. | |
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Timmy Roi
Messages : 4984
| Sujet: Re: [Live] On the road to Stahleck et Infos en direct Sam 29 Nov 2014 - 13:16 | |
| C'est quand même assez parlant... 23 Greyjoy, la derestriction d'asha n'a clairement pas suffi à remonter la maison (en comparaison des 48 targ, le ratio laisse rêveur...) | |
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Jaelen Valar Morghulis
Messages : 11239 Age : 41
| Sujet: Re: [Live] On the road to Stahleck et Infos en direct Sam 29 Nov 2014 - 13:19 | |
| Y a pas beaucoup plus de martells non plus hein | |
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Mog Membre du Conseil Restreint
Messages : 11403 Age : 39
| Sujet: Re: [Live] On the road to Stahleck et Infos en direct Sam 29 Nov 2014 - 20:54 | |
| J'ai pour ma part j'ai rencontré 1 Barath DWDW, 1 Stark NoA, 1 Lanni PBtT et 5 Targaryen KotHH... | |
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Tygrou Valar Morghulis
Messages : 7773 Age : 33
| Sujet: Re: [Live] On the road to Stahleck et Infos en direct Sam 29 Nov 2014 - 21:10 | |
| Mog t'as joué 5 fois contre Nuggetz ? :/ | |
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Lannistark Champion de France de Mêlée 2016 - Garde de Nuit de Paris
Messages : 4151
| Sujet: Re: [Live] On the road to Stahleck et Infos en direct Sam 29 Nov 2014 - 21:43 | |
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Venomous Blade is pushing all the other Martell restricteds out of contention and seems the weakest house overall
ah ah j'ai ri. Et dire que c'était encore une maison cheatée il y a peu (oui, je sais, certains diront que ça n'a pas changé ) | |
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